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This thread has been pretty interesting overall. I've read most of it and would at least like to provide some feedback on the technical side of designing with the 45 and 2A3 DHTs... at least from my personal experience. A few years back I decid...
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This thread has been pretty interesting overall. I've read most of it and would at least like to provide some feedback on the technical side of designing with the 45 and 2A3 DHTs... at least from my personal experience. A few years back I decid...
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First of all, this not an attack on NOS tubes and it is all meant to be just sort of fun and educational. I happened to have all these 2A3 tubes side by side for comparison, so why not? I also have done the same thing with other tube types like 6SN...
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Adrian, Romy, et al, Okay, I don't take any of it as an attack... so none of that bothers me.... I'm fine with it... again, it's a view on what you heard based on your test scenario, nothing more and I certainly welcome the review. Now tha...
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I do not remember details already but Dima and I had the same discussion a few weeks back. After all his research he was very much disagree with textbook use of 2A3. He felt that max power and the most proper operation of this tube will be at 275...
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[quote user="slack key"]I know that speaker position and room acoustics are important. I use a laser to align the speakers, room treatments, hallographs, crystals, ionizer, Z-sleeves, bybee filters, etc. I also have power conditioners, installed de...
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It turned out that I end up with 4V tubes for MF channel and am running my YO186. The 2A3 tubers I kind of have left on peripheral of my interests. It is not the 2A3 tubes are “bad”. I did not go deep with 2A3 and did not try their expensive sin...
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[quote user="drdna"] Well, and I have a dozen of them sitting here next to my desk while I am building my Milq amp s-l-o-w-l-y so I guess I will discover my audio intelligence level sometime after the New Year.[/quote]
That is so cool that you...
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[quote user="Paul S"]So what's wrong with the 6SN7, apart from the high prices fetched by good ones? If building a 2A3 amp for personal use, it seems a likely choice. I do not know the 6E5P, but I do love the tone of the 6SN7, and I espec...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I was thinking about this: how come that driving 6C33C (in fact driving anything one can imagine) the 6E5P was very fine but driving 2A3 it was dull like hell. I opened the amp and tested all – everything was perfect but th...
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This subject does not bother me too aggressively as I recognize absolutely no sonic demands or listening temptations to change anything in my playback. However, there is a theoretical and conceptual curiosity on my part and I would like to learn what...
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I was playing lately with the Single-stage Melq and the DHT amp driving MF channel. It turned out that the Sun Audio VT-2A3 was very simple kit and it 2-3 hours to make it working. There is a lot in this kit that I do not like and some revisions will...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]It is obvious that 6SN7-2A3 and 6E6P direct have very different character. The 2A3 it feels like heavy-sunk time of tube and it constantly run a fully submerged. It has seriousness but it does not look at this point that i...
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I kind of disagree with Adrian. The wire, the coupling caps, the cathode resistors and many other things are superbly important but it is after the strategic topology is settled. In my view caps, resistor, wire and other things are responsible for th...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Are any of those new tubes besides the Chinese tubes are single plated?[/quote]I believe they are all single plated.
[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I have bought some very nice 2A3 and 6A3 double plated from 1942 and 1944 an...
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Romy and drnda,
When you speak of the "Chinese 2A3" which one do you mean? Romy, if you have the Shuguang 2A3C then I understand why you find it better than the Sovtek, no argument there! drdna, the Shuguang is a little more extended on top than t...
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Having listened for a while with the tubes, I have come to some conclusions. The three tubes I have seriously listened to are: Kron, Sophia, and Emission Labs. All the tubes are much better than any other modern 2A3 tubes I have tried. I felt my in...
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I totally am a believer that the construction of a tube determines how it will sound. This makes perfect sense when you consider the tube is relies on the changing flux of electrons in a vacuum. It is easier at least for me to visualize this as a ph...
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Okay so I got the NOS Sylvania "Spring Top" dual filament 2A3 tubes and have been listening to them for a while, now I am ready to make a report on the tube.
The tube is well built and structurally sound. Tapping gives a very small "tabla" sound ...
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Adrian, Romy, (Dima), First, I most certainly agree that the textbook operating point for the 2A3 is not optimal and can be improved on, hence my own design from a few years ago. If you are sticking with a 2.5K load, you will simply not ge...
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[quote user="drdna"] How about using the 6C33C for the low midrange-woofer, the 2A3 for the upper midrange, and the 45 for the tweeter? I suspect if each circuit can be optimized, that they can do their best within each frequency range. [/quote] Hm…....
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It is not the subject that I closely observe at this point but I have to tell you that paling with my new MF amp I do develop some linking to Chinese Shuguang tubes. They are pretty good and for $75 per pair new they are surprisingly good. I am not f...
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Jim, It is the super tube – you forgot to mention the amount of noise with its transconductance…. You use the 7788 as a driver to drive 2A3? This is kind of strange: the 7788 has relatively low bias and a typical line voltage should sent 7788 deep in...
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Why use the GM70 apart from its power potential? For one thing, it seems to require literally lethal voltages to become remotely listenable. Is it really "that" linear, to insist on it?But my experience with GM70 is quite imited. I ...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]I do not know what you mean by “specific set-up” and what San Audio did is very orthodox use of 2A3 and I did not change it. The only change that I made (and I do not know at this point if it was a good change) was the chan...
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[quote user="floobydust"]I do agree that the internal structure makes a big difference... but, if the tube specs properly and has adequate immunity to mechanical induced interference, then you should not be able to discern any major difference in sou...
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[quote user="floobydust"]The 2A3 can be almost as quiet, but ONLY in the dual-section paralleled types. I adopted a split balance technique. It only works with cathode bias due to the topology but it is effective. You also need a good quality filamen...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"][quote user="drdna"]However, there is no comparison to the expensive tubes from Kron, Sophia, and Emission Labs. These are all in a separate category. These produce a very different sound. It is like this: on the old black ...
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[quote user="floobydust"]Running the higher B+ voltage (350 volts) with a 1K cathode bias resistor and the 2.5K load results in higher distortion than the text-book operating point, which is B+ of 300 volts and a 750 ohm cathode biasing resistor and ...
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[quote user="drdna"] It will be a little project to modify the amplifier, but it may be educational. To optimize the Moondog circuit for the NOS 2A3 tubes, so they will give their best, I plan to buy a new OPT with primary impedance around 3.5-4K. [/...
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